More hilights from Micah Hanks’ interview with journalist Steve Hammons on the UFO flap occurring in Stephenville, Texas; with comments from independent UFO researcher and Gralien Report correspondent Mobius:
MICAH: I’m gonna point out something that Mobius was talking about, and this is very interesting to me also. The journalist Linda Moulton Howe has talked about some of these sightings and she seems to be under the impression that a lot of these might be projections, some sort of “something” being projected. That seems quite contrary to the video that Mobius was discussing with me earlier, Capturing the Light, 30,000 Feet of Proof, and Steve, that’s why I’d like you to see this film. In it, Frank Longo, who put the documentary together about an elderly woman named Dorothy, who since the 1970s has used an 8mm Film Camera and has filmed some of the strangest phenomena you probably will have ever seen. When they went to her house to film this documentary and to talk with Dorothy’s family about their interpretation of what Dorothy had filmed for all these years, suddenly in the background outside one of the windows one of these lights appears. It almost seems to interact with the people there, and even seems to have appeared for the camera as this crew arrived and started talking about this and disputing the existence of these lights
MOBIUS: This is a very non-typical UFO video, and is almost a spiritual video. There are energy orbs that are seen in the video entering people’s bodies during the filming, and the lights outside the windows almost appear to come when she calls them, and they are consistent with her 8mm film. They are also consistent with the “projections” that are being seen down in Texas; they’re identical, and I don’t think that anyone has put the clues together and connected the dots.
MICAH: Steve, with your research into what’s going on in Stephenville right now, have you come across any encounters where people have claimed to have felt some sort of an “interaction” with the aerial phenomena they’ve witnessed?
HAMMONS: No, I can’t say I have. I would say about your comment about these things being some kind of projections, do you mean like a “military project” type of projection in the sky, or a projection in terms of inner-relationship psychological projection of some kind?
MICAH: I think the latter, although I think I see where you’re going with this. I’d heard a report about a government project about directing plasmas into the upper atmosphere, and being able to project energies. Is that where you were going with this?
HAMMONS: Well yeah, I’ve seen things like that on the web and so forth that government researchers and contractors might look at weapons or technology that could be used as a type of psychological weapons modality; that you could shake up a population of a country, let’s say, by making things appear in their sky. Now, I’m not saying that’s the case in Stephenville or some of these other cases but I have heard of that, and it did actually cross my mind in Stephenville because there is some scuttlebutt about some military and defense contractors who have research operations in that general area of Texas. I don’t have the details, but it did cross my mind during all this, but some of the facts about at least some of the sightings seemed contrary to that.
MICAH: Another prevailing element about this thing going on down there in Stephenville, seems to have to do with people down in Stephenville talking about being harassed in the tradition of Roswell and other famous cover-ups. Now, you are the author of two novels, Mission Into Light and Light’s Hand which deal with a military joint-service research team that investigates the unexplained. Do you consider some of the “hush hush” attitudes people have described in and around Stephenville as the classic “cover-up” scenario, or could it be the case that, like in your novels, there might be legitimate security reasons things are kept quiet involving the government and their own investigations?
HAMMONS: Well, one of the witnesses, a fellow named Ricky Sorrels, is a local metal worker and lives out in a semi rural area. He’s apparently well thought of in the community, and he has been on CNN and other news media, and he saw something about 300 feet up, he said it was “the altitude of three grain or corn silos” is how he measured the altitude. This thing was metallic or metallic like, and he was actually out with his hunting rifle, maybe looking for deer, and this thing filled the sky; he could not see the edge of it. He used his telescopic sight on his hunting rifle to get a close look at it, and as a metal worker he was interested in the fact that he saw no rivets, seams, or anything like that which you’d see in conventional metal.
Now, Mr. Sorrels contacted the reporter Angelia Joiner at some point later, which I also reported on, that he had received a phone call from a man who claimed he was an Air force lieutenant colonel I believe it was. Miss Joiner reported on this when she was still with the Stephenville Empire-Tribune news paper, and Mr. Sorrels said that this man said that “I wanna come out to your place and talk to you about what you’re talking to CNN and the media and so forth about. Mr. Sorrels apparently said something like “Well I’m not sure I wanna talk to ya, let me think about it,” and this caller insisted that he wanted to come out and speak to him, and apparently they got into a little discussion about whose property it was and “who was gonna come on who’s property.” And, what was reported to Miss Joiner was that this man said, “Well son, our bullets are as big as yours and we have more of them.” Now, it doesn’t take much imagination to realize that sure sounds like a threat; this was reported by Miss Joiner, and I quoted her reporting, and at some point a few days later, Mr. Sorrels was awakened by several dogs he has out on his property. They started barking; you know, sometimes there might be deer or varmints or critters out there near his property, so he kinda knew which dog reacts what way to what kind of animal.
He woke up about 1 AM, looked out the window, and he sees a man, an intruder, out there on his rural property. He becomes concerned; this man is acting in an unusual way, and of course he’s on his property in the middle of the night. Mr. Sorrels grabs his rifle, watches this man, and Mr. Sorrels reports that his impression was this man wanted Mr. Sorrels to see him and know that he was there. Mr. Sorrels thought about going out there and confronting him, but because his wife and children were sleeping inside, he thought the better of it, and the man eventually left. Mr. Sorrels the next morning went out to the wooded area where the man had left, and found a large caliber, pristine bullet laying in a very visible open space apparently, as Mr. Sorrels had been following footprints and looking for animal tracks and that kind of thing. And that, of course, made Mr. Sorrels wonder if this was a message of some kind, some type of intimidation. Apparently, some of the other witnesses in the area, again some of them apparently are peace officers, have reportedly received some kind of contact, trying to persuade them or encourage them that this was nothing they should make a big thing about, it’s either routine military activities of some kind or something that they should kinda relax about, I’d say.
MICAH: Yeah, that’s the kinda thing that nobody who sees a UFO wants to have happen. It’s kind of the modern equivalent of the classic “MIBs”.
HAMMONS: Yes, and we don’t know if this man who called him was actually an Air force officer. Some people said, “Oh, the Air force is this or that”. There’s no way of knowing if this was an Air force officer; this could have been a prank, or this could be some third party contractor calling for some security reason. We don’t know who that caller might have been, and we don’t know who that intruder might have been, for that matter.
MOBIUS: The similarity; I still cannot dismiss it, going ten years back to the Phoenix lights, where the entire event unfolded the same way. The governor was ordered to make it a non-story, and he went on CNN back then with his little fake alien and made fun of the story. He was told it would be revealed to the public what the truth was; ten years later, nothing! So now, everybody can go to CNN and see where the governor of Arizona said he was told to lie, he saw a mile-wide craft, and it was not from this Earth. Once again, it would seem that the government was doing the same thing: repressing information, and trying to make this a non-story. I think we’re onto them, they’re busted, and it’s time the truth be told.
MICAH: Steve, you live out that way, had you been in the Phoenix area or close to there when the Phoenix Lights case hit the news?
HAMMONS: Well yes, I’m talking to you from Phoenix right now, and I did live here in 1997. I lived in one of the areas of the metropolitan Phoenix area, which is a pretty big area, that the object probably would have flown over. But either I was inside watching TV or something, and I was not a witness to it. I am familiar with governor Fife Simington’s statements recently that he did see it. It wasn’t just lights, it was a huge solid object, as other witnesses have described, a mile long, something like that; which is, by the way, how some of the witnesses in Stephenville have described that object. Some people have seen some lights or orbs doing some unusual maneuverings in the sky, other witnesses like Mr. Sorrels and others have said they saw a large, solid object, perhaps a mile in length or width, and that it took off at incredible speeds, and there do seem to be some similarities there to the Phoenix incident.
MICAH: Absolutely, and I’ve heard more and more people, as this thing goes along, making those kinds of comparisons. Thank you for being my guest, Steve.
